Curse

Tr0n · May 11, 2006, 07:23 AM // 07:23

http://exe.gotfrag.com/portal/story/32496/?spage=2

Quote removed, that's copyrighted material.

Concept art: http://www.intothepixel.com/view-art.php?year=2006 (Nr. 7 from top)

RTSFirebat · May 11, 2006, 07:27 AM // 07:27

2nd link doesn't really lead to any pictures, could you give a more direct link.

Interesting info, but till I see A.net give any updates I'm considering if only speculation. But nevertheless my best guess is chapter3 will be located North of Kryta, beyond the great lake.

Guess we have to wait a bit longer before we get a chance to crush the Charr.

Tr0n · May 11, 2006, 07:28 AM // 07:28

Direct link for the concept art.

http://www.intothepixel.com/content/...34d9c30d53.jpg

The info is from E3, where they show Chapter III under closed doors.

RTSFirebat · May 11, 2006, 07:35 AM // 07:35

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Originally Posted by Tr0n

Direct link for the concept art.

http://www.intothepixel.com/content/...34d9c30d53.jpg

And this is confirmed info from E3, where they show Chapter III under closed doors.

ah right THAT picture.

Yes I said that a while ago and wondered about it. Hopefully chapter 3 will be something new and fresh, chapter 2 was somewhat samely.

Not sure what to make of these floating cities.

Diablo™ · May 11, 2006, 07:42 AM // 07:42

Good stuff. I'll be seeing it at E3 tomorrow maybe..

Tr0n · May 11, 2006, 07:46 AM // 07:46

Cool. Post some screenshost and a preview if you can.

Manic Smile · May 11, 2006, 08:27 AM // 08:27

I wanna E3

Snowman · May 11, 2006, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Hopefully chapter 3 will be something new and fresh, chapter 2 was somewhat samely.

Yea, 16 player missions, 12vs12 battles, the controling of territories, high-score challenge missions, repeatable quests, two new proffesions, Jade sea's, petrified forests, built up cities, swarms of monsters which explode on death... all very similar to Chapter 1.

RTSFirebat · May 11, 2006, 08:52 AM // 08:52

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Originally Posted by Snowman

Yea, 16 player missions, 12vs12 battles, the controling of territories, high-score challenge missions, repeatable quests, two new proffesions, Jade sea's, petrified forests, built up cities, swarms of monsters which explode on death... all very similar to Chapter 1.

16 Missions - shame the story was weak, less then chapter 1
The controling of territories - Shame you have to farm faction to have any hope of having them. But the 8v8 battles can be fun.
High-score challenge missions - That only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time
Jade sea's, petrified forests - These were nice, but just eye candy
Built up cities - Slum areas are annoying and again just eye candy
Swarms of monsters which explode on death - Death Nova from Chapter 1? Again nothing really new. AI still acts the same.

Sorry to paint a negative picture, but for me Chapter 2 didn't really add anything majorly new to the gameplay. But that is for a dicusssion in another forum.

Daemon Dremora · May 11, 2006, 08:59 AM // 08:59

OMG i so wish i was going to E3. but yes i actually like factions. no matter how many people complain about it.....but i do hope Chapter 3 delivers more. but argh i cant wait. i want all of the guildwars chapters now....every last one of them.....i dont know why but i have never really been this excited about any game ever....any time i the word guildwars comes to my head it makes me think about what they are going to do with the new chapters.... i am so hyper right now and i really have no idea why...

Alex Weekes · May 11, 2006, 09:04 AM // 09:04

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

High-score challenge missions - That only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time

Actually, these are available to everyone

. The first one you'll find in the game is Dragon's Throat and there are more as your progress.

DJ Josh · May 11, 2006, 09:10 AM // 09:10

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Originally Posted by Alex Weekes

Actually, these are available to everyone

. The first one you'll find in the game is Dragon's Throat and there are more as your progress.

i think it clear that RTS was refering to the extremely limited access on the elite missions.

Rancour · May 11, 2006, 09:13 AM // 09:13

So, Alex. Is there any truth to these assumptions on Chapter 3? Are we gonna be seeing Afflicted Camels and Dredge Rhinos in the next installment of Guildwars?

fallot · May 11, 2006, 09:22 AM // 09:22

That floating mosque is the coolest thing I've ever seen since Chapter 1 concept art.

Tuoba Hturt Eht · May 11, 2006, 09:38 AM // 09:38

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

High-score challenge missions - That only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time

- Dragon's Throat
Kurzick
- Altrumm Ruins
- Amatz Basin
Luxon
- Zos Shivros Channel
- The Aurios Mines

These are called "Challenge Missions", they are not "Elite Missions" where "only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time".

"High Score" because the scores of the teams who did their best are recorded down.
- Daily Best
- Montly Best
- All Time Best

Makkert · May 11, 2006, 09:52 AM // 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

16 Missions - shame the story was weak, less then chapter 1

Personally, I found the storyline stronger then Chapter 1.

I mean, escaping from Ascalon. ok.
Wait, suddenly we are helping the White Mantle? eh...ok?
Wait wait, no, White Mantles are baddies. let's help Shining Blade. eh ok?
Ehm, so let's slay Glint. Yes, the one that helps us. That makes sense.
.......
Compared to that, I found Ch.2's storyline quite nicely, with nice flashbacks.

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The controling of territories - Shame you have to farm faction to have any hope of having them. But the 8v8 battles can be fun.

Yes, so let's see...You miss.....fireworks!
The thought of not having fireworks is unbareable. Sorry, it is nice recognition for the top pve alliances, but it's all that. What's wrong with recognition? You hardly are missing anything here. Probably fireworks are tradeble, so that is also passible.

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High-score challenge missions - That only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time

assuming you meant the Elite Missions.
Yes, that is a bit limited...
From what I hear: just chucked up with monsters, so-so drops. What are we missing here? I might be a pvp player mostly, but the only thing I can see of wanting this, is having another challenge.
Is it true that if you join a controlling alliance's party, you can enter? If so, with effort possible. I can understand why it upsets players, but everyone wanted a way for pve-ers to distinguish themselves...so they gave it to you?

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Jade sea's, petrified forests - These were nice, but just eye candy

Built up cities - Slum areas are annoying and again just eye candy

Swarms of monsters which explode on death - Death Nova from Chapter 1? Again nothing really new. AI still acts the same.

Yes AI the same. Except we have more henchies to choose from, the monsters have different skills. Did you expect anything else?

Quote:

Sorry to paint a negative picture, but for me Chapter 2 didn't really add anything majorly new to the gameplay. But that is for a dicusssion in another forum.

- alliance battles
- challenge missions
- alliance forming
- random 8v8
- guildscrimmages
- faster skillpoint acquisition (sp?) [missions, elite 5k bonus]
- better replay incentive pve missions with beginner-experienced-veteran status
- titles
- 16 player pve missions (altough they often are just a big Henchman party)

Personally, I think they did a fine job with Factions.
Sorry to paint a positive picture, but I didn't set high hopes for myself, so it was easy to surpass my hopes and made me overall quite happy with Factions.

I can see why some players are disappointed with certain things (personally the strict implementation of alliancechat), but overall its too harsh to say they didn't add anything major to the game.

my 2 cents,

Makkert

RTSFirebat · May 11, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuoba Hturt Eht

- Dragon's Throat
Kurzick
- Altrumm Ruins
- Amatz Basin
Luxon
- Zos Shivros Channel
- The Aurios Mines

These are called "Challenge Missions", they are not "Elite Missions" where "only 1% of the whole game population have access to at the time".

"High Score" because the scores of the teams who did their best are recorded down.
- Daily Best
- Montly Best
- All Time Best

Ok stop carrying on, I was talking about the Elite missions, not the Challenge ones... no need for the guide to the missions, I understand them already.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makkert

Personally, I found the storyline stronger then Chapter 1.

I mean, escaping from Ascalon. ok.
Wait, suddenly we are helping the White Mantle? eh...ok?
Wait wait, no, White Mantles are baddies. let's help Shining Blade. eh ok?
Ehm, so let's slay Glint. Yes, the one that helps us. That makes sense.
.......
Compared to that, I found Ch.2's storyline quite nicely, with nice flashbacks.

Yes, so let's see...You miss.....fireworks!
The thought of not having fireworks is unbareable. Sorry, it is nice recognition for the top pve alliances, but it's all that. What's wrong with recognition? You hardly are missing anything here. Probably fireworks are tradeble, so that is also passible.

assuming you meant the Elite Missions.
Yes, that is a bit limited...
From what I hear: just chucked up with monsters, so-so drops. What are we missing here? I might be a pvp player mostly, but the only thing I can see of wanting this, is having another challenge.
Is it true that if you join a controlling alliance's party, you can enter? If so, with effort possible. I can understand why it upsets players, but everyone wanted a way for pve-ers to distinguish themselves...so they gave it to you?

Yes AI the same. Except we have more henchies to choose from, the monsters have different skills. Did you expect anything else?

- alliance battles
- challenge missions
- alliance forming
- random 8v8
- guildscrimmages
- faster skillpoint acquisition (sp?) [missions, elite 5k bonus]
- better replay incentive pve missions with beginner-experienced-veteran status
- titles
- 16 player pve missions (altough they often are just a big Henchman party)

Personally, I think they did a fine job with Factions.
Sorry to paint a positive picture, but I didn't set high hopes for myself, so it was easy to surpass my hopes and made me overall quite happy with Factions.

I can see why some players are disappointed with certain things (personally the strict implementation of alliancechat), but overall its too harsh to say they didn't add anything major to the game.

my 2 cents,

Makkert

Well..

Flashbacks are confusing, always have been when use in any story.

Fireworks aren't tradeable and are very shortlived... wish they were tradeable.

Elites Missions is what I was refering to, and they are limited and not matter how you put it, I would like to have a go at them. Shame none of the current alliances wish to share.

New battle system while good and fun are just another form of GvG once you look at the core dynamics. Guild Scrimmages is for Chapter 1 and 2. Replaying quests is interesting, at first.

And getting skillpoints is all good and fine, but skills still cost me 1K each now, gold rewards are still too low.

I still find farming skills in Chapter 1 faster by just running quests quickly.

In short...

You seems to think I dislike Factions, that is far from the truth, I like it a lot. But to consider it a standalone game is rubbish, it feels and plays like an expansion.

Snowman · May 11, 2006, 10:22 AM // 10:22

Regardless of if you liked or disliked factions (Which I still argue is way to early to presume) Factions is still VERY different to prophecies!!

How you can say they are similar is preposterous.

Tetris L · May 11, 2006, 10:25 AM // 10:25

Hmmm ... what could have been a nice collection of info about chapter 3 turns into a discussion about chapter 2.

Can't you guys stick to the subject?

RTSFirebat · May 11, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40

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Originally Posted by Tetris L

Hmmm ... what could have been a nice collection of info about chapter 3 turns into a discussion about chapter 2.

Can't you guys stick to the subject?

I didn't change the subject, all I said I hope chapter 3 isn't samey...

Anyways yes back on topic...

My best guess is new area will be north of Kryta, it can't be north of Ascalon since the Charr lands would most likely but a wasteland.

Maybe in Chapter 4 we'll be able to take the fight back to the charr!